Are these the loose-taper jeans? If so how'd you size them? I keep reading about people going down a couple sizes or so. The measurements on the site seem to match up with that information, but i'm still skeptical.
I have a pair in horse and had a bison pair. Horse in size 8 and bison in sz 9; they both fit great with the insoles. I could probably do bison in sz 8 without the insole, but I dont think it would be as comfy. Im usually a sz 43 in most things.