Agreed, it's not ideal. I had however forgotten how long this tie is when I put it on (and I can't be bothered to change it when I've put it on). It works with lower rise pants, but I'd rather tuck then have a long tie penor. I mainly posted it because I liked the colours/fit of everything else together. I obviouslydont think a tucked tie is that much of a deal breaker if I like everything else about an outfit, but, you know, as they say, YMMV.