I wear the same size in both Forest and Rain. I don't find the Rain last to be much wider in the way the shoes wear. When I first tried the Forest shoes on I experienced a little heel slippage but that quickly went away after I wore the shoes inside for several hours.I think he pics (as they look on my screen) do represent the true color. There is not much red in the shoes at all. The toes on mine have a nice burnishing effect. I'm very pleased with the purchase.